דף 11
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(סִימָן: שסד״ך) וְתוּ לֵיכָּא? וְהָא אִיכָּא שְׁלֹמֹה! לָא סְלִיק מַלְכוּתֵיהּ.
After mentioning three kings who ruled over the world, the Gemara presents a mnemonic for the names of other kings that will be discussed below: Shin, Solomon, i.e., Shlomo; samekh, Sennacherib; dalet, Darius; kaf, Cyrus, i.e., Koresh. The Gemara asks: But is there no other king besides those previously mentioned who ruled over the entire world? But there is King Solomon who ruled over the world and should be added to the list. The Gemara answers: Solomon did not complete his kingship, as he left the throne during his lifetime, and therefore, his name doesn’t appear on the list.
И больше никого? А ведь есть Шломо! [Ответ:] его царство не устояло [до конца].
הָנִיחָא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר מֶלֶךְ וְהֶדְיוֹט. אֶלָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר מֶלֶךְ וְהֶדְיוֹט וּמֶלֶךְ — מַאי אִיכָּא לְמֵימַר? שְׁלֹמֹה מִילְּתָא אַחֲרִיתִי הֲוָה בֵּיהּ — שֶׁמָּלַךְ עַל הָעֶלְיוֹנִים וְעַל הַתַּחְתּוֹנִים, שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״וַיֵּשֶׁב שְׁלֹמֹה עַל כִּסֵּא ה׳״.
The Gemara asks: This works out well according to the one who said that Solomon was first a king and then a commoner, never returning to the throne. But according to the one who said that he was first a king and then a commoner, and then afterward he returned again to be a king, what can be said to explain why he is not mentioned in the list of kings who ruled over the entire world? The Gemara answers: There was something else about Solomon that makes it impossible to compare him to the others, for he ruled over the inhabitants of the heavenly worlds, i.e., demons and spirits, as well as the human inhabitants of the earthly worlds, as it is stated: “Then Solomon sat upon the throne of the Lord as king” (I Chronicles 29:23), which indicates that his reign extended even to the heavenly worlds, with King Solomon sitting upon the throne of the Lord, and therefore he cannot be compared to the others, who merely ruled on earth.
Это хорошо по мнению того, кто говорит: [Шломо был] царём и [стал] простолюдином. Но по мнению того, кто говорит: царём, простолюдином и снова царём — что можно сказать? С Шломо было нечто иное — он царствовал над высшими и над нижними, ибо сказано: «И сел Шломо на престол Господа» (Диврей а-Ямим I 29:23).
וְהָא הֲוָה סַנְחֵרִיב, דִּכְתִיב: ״מִי בְּכׇל אֱלֹהֵי הָאֲרָצוֹת הָאֵלֶּה אֲשֶׁר הִצִּילוּ אֶת אַרְצָם מִיָּדִי״! הָא אִיכָּא יְרוּשָׁלַיִם דְּלָא כַּבְשַׁהּ!
The Gemara asks further: But there was Sennacherib, who ruled over the entire world, as it is written: “Who are they among all the gods of these countries, that have delivered their country out of my hand that the Lord should deliver Jerusalem out of my hand?” (Isaiah 36:20). The Gemara answers: There is Jerusalem that he did not conquer, as indicated in the verse.
А ведь был Санхерив, ибо написано: «Кто из всех богов этих земель спас землю свою от руки моей?» (Млахим II 18:35)! [Ответ:] ведь есть Иерусалим, который он не завоевал!
וְהָא אִיכָּא דָּרְיָוֶשׁ, דִּכְתִיב: ״דָּרְיָוֶשׁ מַלְכָּא כְּתַב לְכׇל עַמְמַיָּא אוּמַיָּא וְלִשָּׁנַיָּא דִּי דָיְירִין בְּכׇל אַרְעָא שְׁלָמְכוֹן יִסְגֵּא״! הָא אִיכָּא שְׁבַע דְּלָא מְלַךְ עֲלַיְיהוּ, דִּכְתִיב: ״שְׁפַר קֳדָם דָּרְיָוֶשׁ וַהֲקִים עַל מַלְכוּתָא לַאֲחַשְׁדַּרְפְּנַיָּא מְאָה וְעֶשְׂרִין״!
The Gemara continues to ask: But there is Darius, as it is stated: “Then King Darius wrote to all the peoples, nations, and languages that dwell in all the earth: Peace be multiplied to you” (Daniel 6:26). The Gemara answers: There are the seven provinces over which he did not rule, as it is written: “It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom a hundred and twenty satraps” (Daniel 6:2). It is apparent from here that Darius did not rule over the entire world, for his son Ahasuerus ruled over a hundred and twenty-seven provinces, an additional seven.
А ведь есть Дарьявеш, ибо написано: «Дарьявеш-царь написал всем народам, племенам и языкам, обитающим на всей земле: мир ваш да умножится» (Даниэль 6:26)! [Ответ:] ведь есть семь [областей], над которыми он не царствовал, ибо написано: «Благоугодно было пред Дарьявешем, и поставил он над царством сто двадцать сатрапов» (Даниэль 6:2)!
וְהָא אִיכָּא כּוֹרֶשׁ, דִּכְתִיב: ״כֹּה אָמַר כּוֹרֶשׁ מֶלֶךְ פָּרַס כֹּל מַמְלְכוֹת הָאָרֶץ נָתַן לִי ה׳״! הָתָם אִשְׁתַּבּוֹחֵי הוּא דְּקָא מִשְׁתַּבַּח בְּנַפְשֵׁיהּ.
The Gemara raises another question: But there is Cyrus, as it is written: “Thus says Cyrus, king of Persia: The Lord, God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth” (Ezra 1:2). The Gemara answers: This is not proof that he ruled the world, for there he was merely boasting about himself, although in fact there was no truth to his words.
А ведь есть Кореш, ибо написано: «Так сказал Кореш, царь Персии: все царства земли дал мне Господь» (Эзра 1:2)! [Ответ:] там он просто хвалится.
״בַּיָּמִים הָהֵם כְּשֶׁבֶת הַמֶּלֶךְ״, וּכְתִיב בָּתְרֵיהּ: ״בִּשְׁנַת שָׁלֹשׁ לְמׇלְכוֹ״! אָמַר רָבָא: מַאי ״כְּשֶׁבֶת״, לְאַחַר שֶׁנִּתְיַישְּׁבָה דַּעְתּוֹ. אָמַר: בֵּלְשַׁצַּר חַשֵּׁב וּטְעָה, אֲנָא חָשֵׁיבְנָא וְלָא טָעֵינָא.
§ The second verse in Esther states: “In those days when the king Ahasuerus sat on the throne of his kingdom” (Esther 1:2), implying that the events to follow took place during the first year of his reign; and one verse afterward it is written: “In the third year of his reign” (Esther 1:3), indicating that it was the third year, not the first. Rava said: There is no contradiction. What is the meaning of “when he sat” [keshevet]? It is intended to indicate that he acted not immediately upon his rise to the throne, but rather after his mind was settled [shenityasheva], and he overcame his anxiety and worry with regard to the redemption of the Jewish people. He said to himself as follows: Belshazzar, the king of Babylonia, calculated and erred with regard to the Jewish people’s redemption. I too will calculate, but I will not err.
«В те дни, когда воссел царь» (Эстер 1:2), и далее написано: «в третий год царствования его» (Эстер 1:3)! Сказал Рава: что значит «когда воссел»? После того как успокоился разум его. Он сказал: Белшацар подсчитал и ошибся, а я подсчитаю и не ошибусь.
מַאי הִיא — דִּכְתִיב: ״כִּי לְפִי מְלֹאת לְבָבֶל שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה אֶפְקוֹד אֶתְכֶם״, וּכְתִיב: ״לְמַלֹּאות לְחׇרְבוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִַם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה״. חַשֵּׁוב: אַרְבְּעִין וַחֲמֵשׁ דִּנְבוּכַדְנֶצַּר, וְעֶשְׂרִים וּתְלָת דֶּאֱוִיל מְרוֹדַךְ, וְתַרְתֵּי דִּידֵיהּ — הָא שִׁבְעִים. אַפֵּיק מָאנֵי דְּבֵי מַקְדְּשָׁא וְאִשְׁתַּמַּשׁ בְּהוּ.
The Gemara explains: What is this calculation? As it is written with regard to Jeremiah’s prophecy of a return to Eretz Yisrael: “After seventy years are accomplished for Babylonia I will remember you and perform My good word toward you, enabling you to return to this place” (Jeremiah 29:10), and elsewhere it is written in a slightly different formulation: “In the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, meditated in the books, over the number of the years, which the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish for the desolations of Jerusalem seventy years” (Daniel 9:2). He, Belshazzar, calculated as follows: Forty-five years of Nebuchadnezzar, and twenty-three of Evil-merodach, and two of his own, for a total of seventy years that had passed without redemption. He was therefore certain that Jeremiah’s prophecy would no longer be fulfilled, and he therefore said: I will take out the vessels of the Holy Temple and use them.
Что имеется в виду? Написано: «Ибо по исполнении Вавилоном семидесяти лет Я вспомню о вас» (Ирмеяу 29:10), и написано: «до исполнения семидесяти лет опустошения Иерусалима» (Даниэль 9:2). [Белшацар] подсчитал: сорок пять лет Невухаднецара, двадцать три года Эвиль-Меродаха и два своих — итого семьдесят. Он вынес сосуды Храма и стал пользоваться ими.
וּנְבוּכַדְנֶצַּר, מְנָלַן דְּאַרְבְּעִין וַחֲמֵשׁ שְׁנִין מְלַךְ? דְּאָמַר מָר: גָּלוּ בְּשֶׁבַע, גָּלוּ בִּשְׁמוֹנֶה, גָּלוּ בִּשְׁמוֹנֶה עֶשְׂרֵה, גָּלוּ בִּתְשַׁע עֶשְׂרֵה.
The Gemara asks: From where do we derive that Nebuchadnezzar reigned for forty-five years? As the Master said: They were exiled in the seventh year; they were exiled in the eighth year; they were exiled in the eighteenth year; and they were exiled in the nineteenth year.
А Невухаднецар — откуда известно, что он царствовал сорок пять лет? Как сказал учитель: были изгнаны в седьмой [год его царствования], были изгнаны в восьмой, были изгнаны в восемнадцатый, были изгнаны в девятнадцатый.
גָּלוּ בְּשֶׁבַע — לְכִיבּוּשׁ יְהוֹיָקִים גָּלוּת יְהוֹיָכִין, שֶׁהִיא שְׁמוֹנֶה לִנְבוּכַדְנֶצַּר. גָּלוּ בִּשְׁמוֹנֶה עֶשְׂרֵה — לְכִיבּוּשׁ יְהוֹיָקִים גָּלוּת צִדְקִיָּהוּ שֶׁהִיא תְּשַׁע עֶשְׂרֵה לִנְבוּכַדְנֶצַּר, דְּאָמַר מָר: שָׁנָה רִאשׁוֹנָה כִּיבֵּשׁ נִינְוֵה, שְׁנִיָּה כִּיבֵּשׁ יְהוֹיָקִים. וּכְתִיב: ״וַיְהִי בִשְׁלֹשִׁים וָשֶׁבַע שָׁנָה לְגָלוּת יְהוֹיָכִין מֶלֶךְ יְהוּדָה בִּשְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ בְּעֶשְׂרִים וַחֲמִשָּׁה לַחֹדֶשׁ נָשָׂא אֱוִיל מְרוֹדַךְ מֶלֶךְ בָּבֶל [בִּשְׁנַת מַלְכוּתוֹ] אֶת רֹאשׁ יְהוֹיָכִין מֶלֶךְ יְהוּדָה וַיּוֹצֵא אוֹתוֹ מִבֵּית הַכֶּלֶא״.
The Gemara explains: They were exiled in the seventh year after Nebuchadnezzar’s subjugation of Jehoiakim, in what was known as the exile of Jehoiachin, which was actually the eighth year of Nebuchadnezzar’s reign. Then later they were exiled a second time in the eighteenth year after the subjugation of Jehoiakim, in what was known as the exile of Zedekiah, which was actually in the nineteenth year of Nebuchadnezzar’s reign, as the Master said: In the first year of his reign, Nebuchadnezzar conquered Nineveh; in his second year he conquered Jehoiakim. And it is written: “And it came to pass in the thirty-seventh year of the exile of Jehoiachin, king of Judea, in the twelfth month, on the twenty-fifth day of the month, that Evil-merodach, king of Babylonia, in the first year of his reign, lifted up the head of Jehoiachin, king of Judea, and brought him out of prison” (Jeremiah 52:31).
Были изгнаны в седьмой — к покорению Йеоякима; изгнание Йеояхина — это восьмой год Невухаднецара. Были изгнаны в восемнадцатый — к покорению Йеоякима; изгнание Цидкияу — это девятнадцатый год Невухаднецара. Ибо сказал учитель: в первый год он покорил Ниневию, во второй покорил Йеоякима. И написано: «И было в тридцать седьмой год изгнания Йеояхина, царя Иудеи, в двенадцатом месяце, в двадцать пятый день месяца — возвысил Эвиль-Меродах, царь Вавилона, в год воцарения своего, главу Йеояхина, царя Иудеи, и вывел его из темницы» (Млахим II 25:27).
תַּמְנֵי וּתְלָתִין וּשְׁבַע — הֲרֵי אַרְבְּעִין וַחֲמֵשׁ דִּנְבוּכַדְנֶצַּר. וְעֶשְׂרִין וּתְלָת דֶּאֱוִיל מְרוֹדַךְ — גְּמָרָא, וְתַרְתֵּי דִּידֵיהּ — הָא שִׁבְעִין. אֲמַר: הַשְׁתָּא וַדַּאי תּוּ לָא מִיפַּרְקִי, אַפֵּיק מָאנֵי דְּבֵי מַקְדְּשָׁא וְאִשְׁתַּמַּשׁ בְּהוּ.
The Gemara calculates: Since Evil-merodach acted in the first year of his reign, immediately after coming to power, it turns out that Nebuchadnezzar ruled for eight years before he sent Jehoiachin into exile, and thirty-seven years during which Jehoiachin was in prison. This equals forty-five years of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar. And the twenty-three years of Evil-merodach are known through tradition. And together with the two years of Belshazzar, this brings the count of the years of exile to seventy. At that point Belshazzar said to himself: Now for sure they will not be redeemed. Therefore, I will take out the vessels of the Holy Temple and use them.
Восемь и тридцать семь — итого сорок пять лет Невухаднецара. И двадцать три года Эвиль-Меродаха — это предание. И два его [Белшацара] — итого семьдесят. Он сказал: теперь точно больше не будут искуплены. Вынес сосуды Храма и стал пользоваться ими.
הַיְינוּ דְּקָאָמַר לֵיהּ דָּנִיאֵל: ״וְעַל מָרֵי שְׁמַיָּא הִתְרוֹמַמְתָּ וּלְמָאנַיָּא דִי בַיְיתֵיהּ הַיְתִיו קׇדָמָךְ״, וּכְתִיב: ״בֵּיהּ בְּלֵילְיָא קְטִיל בֵּלְשַׁאצַּר מַלְכָּא [כַּשְׂדָּאָה]״. וּכְתִיב: ״וְדָרְיָוֶשׁ מָדָאָה קַבֵּל מַלְכוּתָא כְּבַר שְׁנִין שִׁתִּין וְתַרְתֵּין״.
This is that which Daniel said to him with regard to his impending punishment for using the Temple’s vessels: “But you have lifted yourself up against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of His House before you” (Daniel 5:23). And it is written further in the chapter: “In that night Belshazzar, the king of the Chaldeans, was slain” (Daniel 5:30). This was the description of Belshazzar’s mistaken calculation. And it states after the fall of Belshazzar: “And Darius the Mede received the kingdom, being about sixty-two years old” (Daniel 6:1).
Это то, что сказал ему Даниэль: «И над Владыкой небес вознёсся ты, и сосуды из Дома Его принесли пред тобой» (Даниэль 5:23). И написано: «В ту же ночь был убит Белшацар, царь халдейский» (Даниэль 5:30). И написано: «И Дарьявеш Мидянин принял царство, будучи шестидесяти двух лет» (Даниэль 6:1).
אֲמַר: אִיהוּ מִיטְעָא טָעֵי, אֲנָא חָשֵׁיבְנָא וְלָא טָעֵינָא. מִי כְּתִיב ״לְמַלְכוּת בָּבֶל״? ״לְבָבֶל״ כְּתִיב, מַאי ״לְבָבֶל״? לְגָלוּת בָּבֶל, כַּמָּה בְּצִירָן — תַּמְנֵי, חַשֵּׁיב וְעַיֵּיל חִילּוּפַיְיהוּ חֲדָא דְּבֵלְשַׁצַּר, וַחֲמֵשׁ דְּדָרְיָוֶשׁ וְכוֹרֶשׁ, וְתַרְתֵּי דִּידֵיהּ — הָא שִׁבְעִין. כֵּיוָן דְּחָזֵי דִּמְלוֹ שִׁבְעִין וְלָא אִיפְּרוּק — אֲמַר: הַשְׁתָּא וַדַּאי תּוּ לָא מִיפַּרְקִי, אַפֵּיק מָאנֵי דְּבֵי מַקְדְּשָׁא וְאִשְׁתַּמַּשׁ בְּהוּ. בָּא שָׂטָן וְרִיקֵּד בֵּינֵיהֶן וְהָרַג אֶת וַשְׁתִּי.
Ahasuerus said: He, Belshazzar, erred. I too will calculate, but I will not err, thinking he understood the source of Belshazzar’s mistake. Is it written: “Seventy years for the kingdom of Babylonia”? It is written: “Seventy years for Babylonia.” What is meant by “for Babylonia”? These words are referring to the seventy years for the exile of Babylonia. How many years are still lacking from the seventy years? Eight years. He calculated, and inserted in their stead one year of Belshazzar, and five years of Darius and Cyrus, and two years of his own, bringing the total to seventy. Once he saw that seventy years had been completed, and the Jewish people were still not redeemed, he said: Now for sure they will not be redeemed. Therefore, I will take out the vessels of the Temple and use them. What happened to him? As a punishment for what he did, the Satan came and danced among them, and brought confusion to his celebration until he killed Vashti.
Сказал [Ахашверош]: тот ошибся в подсчёте, а я подсчитаю и не ошибусь. Разве написано «царству Вавилона»? Написано «Вавилону» (Ирмеяу 29:10). Что значит «Вавилону»? Изгнанию в Вавилон. На сколько меньше? На восемь. Он подсчитал и включил вместо них: один [год] Белшацара, пять [лет] Дарьявеша и Кореша, и два своих — итого семьдесят. Когда увидел, что исполнились семьдесят и не были искуплены, сказал: теперь точно больше не будут искуплены. Вынес сосуды Храма и стал пользоваться ими. Пришёл Сатан и плясал среди них, и убил Вашти.
וְהָא שַׁפִּיר חַשֵּׁיב? אִיהוּ נָמֵי מִיטְעָא טָעֵי, דְּאִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְמִימְנֵי מֵחׇרְבוֹת יְרוּשָׁלַיִם.
The Gemara asks: But he calculated properly; why then did this happen? The Gemara answers: He too erred in his calculation, for he should have counted from the destruction of Jerusalem at the time of the exile of Zedekiah and not from the first exile of Jehoiachin.
Но ведь он правильно подсчитал? Он тоже ошибся, ибо ему нужно было считать от разрушения Иерусалима.
סוֹף סוֹף כַּמָּה בְּצִירָן? חֲדֵיסַר. אִיהוּ כַּמָּה מְלַךְ? אַרְבֵּיסַר, בְּאַרְבֵּיסַר דִּידֵיהּ אִיבְּעִי לֵיהּ לְמִיבְנֵי בֵּית הַמִּקְדָּשׁ, אַלְּמָה כְּתִיב: ״בֵּאדַיִן בְּטֵילַת עֲבִידַת בֵּית אֱלָהָא דִּי בִּירוּשְׁלֶם״, אָמַר רָבָא: שָׁנִים מְקוּטָּעוֹת הֲווֹ.
The Gemara asks: Ultimately, how many years were lacking? Eleven, for the exile of Zedekiah took place eleven years after that of Jehoiachin. How many years did Ahasuerus reign as king? Fourteen. Indeed, in his fourteenth year, then, the Temple should have been built. If so, why is it written: “Then the work of the House of God, which is in Jerusalem, ceased; so it ceased until the second year of the reign of Darius, king of Persia” (Ezra 4:24), which indicates that the Temple was not built during the entire reign of Ahasuerus? Rava said: The years reckoned were partial years. To complete the seventy years, it was necessary to wait until the second year of the rule of Darius II, when indeed the Temple was built.
В конце концов, на сколько [лет] меньше? На одиннадцать. А он сколько царствовал? Четырнадцать. В четырнадцатый его [год] должен был быть отстроен Храм. Почему же написано: «Тогда прекратилась работа над Домом Божьим, что в Иерусалиме» (Эзра 4:24)? Сказал Рава: это были неполные годы.